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From: daveculp@bdt.com (Dave Culp)
Newsgroups: rec.kites
Subject: Re: Yeeeeha! Chevron progress
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:19:20 -0800
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> To measure the L/D of the *kite*, take the arc-tan of the angle between the
> wind and the bridle at the tow-point.  Note that this brings the drag of the
> bridle and also the weight of the kite into the equation, but I think that
> this is fair and useful.
> 
> To measure the L/D of the kite and line system, take the arc-tan of the
> angle between the wind and the angle of the *bottom* of the line.
> 
> The angle to the kite it'sself (what we were comparing) is of little
> interest.

Tsk, tsk. And I've been trying to beat this into your thick head for
months. You can lead a horse to water...  (Or as my good friend, a
landscape contractor says, "You can lead a horticulture, but you cannot
make her think.") (Oh, sh*t, was that illegal?) (Or was that?!! This
computer decency act is giving me a headache)

>I think that the Chev *kite* was flying at
> a more efficient angle, but the Chevron kite-line system was at a less
> efficient angle.  The performance of the line is *so* important.

As I've perhaps mentioned...

> Maybe the Chev was hampered by the drag penalty.  Maybe it wasn't pulling as
> hard, 

I think you've hit something here. You're kite possibly (probably) *can*
pull as hard or harder, at the same L/D as the Peel, but, as the *system*
was at its max L/D, but line drag was greater, the *kite* was working at a
higher L/D, and was thus working at a *lower* coefficient of lift (higher
efficiency, but less total lift) than the Peel. In addition, it was
carrying the higher drag of the line, which allowed *the system* to
deliver less line tension ("pull") to your hands.

> but I don't care if my kite pulls slightly less (I'll just build a
> bigger kite and tell the morons who want to limit size to jump in a lake)
> because L/D is *everything*.

Cool concept. I think I was younger than you are when I first thought of
this, though. <smirk>

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